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	<title>Comments on: Should we Incorporate &#8220;Process Debt&#8221; as a Concept in BPM?</title>
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		<title>By: Process for the Enterprise &#187; Blog Archive &#187; Creating and Retiring Process Debt at #bpmCamp 2010 @ Stanford</title>
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		<dc:creator>Process for the Enterprise &#187; Blog Archive &#187; Creating and Retiring Process Debt at #bpmCamp 2010 @ Stanford</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 08 Feb 2010 13:33:52 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] and Retiring Process Debt at #bpmCamp 2010 @ Stanford February 8th, 2010 by Scott Francis  The first go-round on Process Debt got quite a few reads and private emails and comments that motivated me to keep thinking about his [...]</description>
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		<title>By: Scott Francis</title>
		<link>http://www.bp-3.com/blogs/2009/12/should-we-incorporate-process-debt-as-a-concept-in-bpm/comment-page-1/#comment-1042</link>
		<dc:creator>Scott Francis</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 09 Dec 2009 23:39:07 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@Jaisundar - in my view, you&#039;re correct - debt isn&#039;t inherently bad - just like debt to buy a house or expand a business isn&#039;t inherently bad.  But it is still something we have to address in the future, and ideally we don&#039;t want to build up so much debt that our &quot;cashflow&quot; can&#039;t maintain the interest payments!  (maintenance efforts and process improvement efforts). 

I think @Steve hits the nail on the head - we take on debt to get process out the door faster, learn from it, and proceed from there.  I think process debt, as a concept, helps explain why it is so helpful to budget for more than one release from the get-go. Because you&#039;ll want a .1, .2, .3 release to address process debt intentionally incurred during the initial roll-out...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@Jaisundar &#8211; in my view, you&#8217;re correct &#8211; debt isn&#8217;t inherently bad &#8211; just like debt to buy a house or expand a business isn&#8217;t inherently bad.  But it is still something we have to address in the future, and ideally we don&#8217;t want to build up so much debt that our &#8220;cashflow&#8221; can&#8217;t maintain the interest payments!  (maintenance efforts and process improvement efforts). </p>
<p>I think @Steve hits the nail on the head &#8211; we take on debt to get process out the door faster, learn from it, and proceed from there.  I think process debt, as a concept, helps explain why it is so helpful to budget for more than one release from the get-go. Because you&#8217;ll want a .1, .2, .3 release to address process debt intentionally incurred during the initial roll-out&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: Scott Francis</title>
		<link>http://www.bp-3.com/blogs/2009/12/should-we-incorporate-process-debt-as-a-concept-in-bpm/comment-page-1/#comment-4653</link>
		<dc:creator>Scott Francis</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 09 Dec 2009 23:39:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@Jaisundar - in my view, you&#039;re correct - debt isn&#039;t inherently bad - just like debt to buy a house or expand a business isn&#039;t inherently bad.  But it is still something we have to address in the future, and ideally we don&#039;t want to build up so much debt that our &quot;cashflow&quot; can&#039;t maintain the interest payments!  (maintenance efforts and process improvement efforts). 

I think @Steve hits the nail on the head - we take on debt to get process out the door faster, learn from it, and proceed from there.  I think process debt, as a concept, helps explain why it is so helpful to budget for more than one release from the get-go. Because you&#039;ll want a .1, .2, .3 release to address process debt intentionally incurred during the initial roll-out...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@Jaisundar &#8211; in my view, you&#8217;re correct &#8211; debt isn&#8217;t inherently bad &#8211; just like debt to buy a house or expand a business isn&#8217;t inherently bad.  But it is still something we have to address in the future, and ideally we don&#8217;t want to build up so much debt that our &#8220;cashflow&#8221; can&#8217;t maintain the interest payments!  (maintenance efforts and process improvement efforts). </p>
<p>I think @Steve hits the nail on the head &#8211; we take on debt to get process out the door faster, learn from it, and proceed from there.  I think process debt, as a concept, helps explain why it is so helpful to budget for more than one release from the get-go. Because you&#8217;ll want a .1, .2, .3 release to address process debt intentionally incurred during the initial roll-out&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: Steve</title>
		<link>http://www.bp-3.com/blogs/2009/12/should-we-incorporate-process-debt-as-a-concept-in-bpm/comment-page-1/#comment-1039</link>
		<dc:creator>Steve</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 09 Dec 2009 20:44:20 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I like the idea of process debt to describe some of the hidden cost of the decisions we make as we proceed with a BPM implementation or initiative.   I think it can also be a mechanism for explaining how to use the debt effectively and to remember that it has to be paid back.

In business we often borrow money to get a product to market faster. The speed buys us market share and an understanding of the market, from which we iterate our design and revisit our strategy.  So the debt is worth it and we have to have some faith that the product will make enough money to pay back the debt.

For many companies, BPM is a new thing, so they don&#039;t fully understand how to use it, and they will only get this understanding when they &quot;get it to market&quot;.  So, for example, a simple UI that isn&#039;t as productive to use as the &quot;perfect UI&quot; is a good debt. It allows us to get our BPM initiative &quot;to market&quot; faster and start understanding it and adjusting our strategy. We just have to realize that like all debt, we need to pay it off at some point and improve the UI.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I like the idea of process debt to describe some of the hidden cost of the decisions we make as we proceed with a BPM implementation or initiative.   I think it can also be a mechanism for explaining how to use the debt effectively and to remember that it has to be paid back.</p>
<p>In business we often borrow money to get a product to market faster. The speed buys us market share and an understanding of the market, from which we iterate our design and revisit our strategy.  So the debt is worth it and we have to have some faith that the product will make enough money to pay back the debt.</p>
<p>For many companies, BPM is a new thing, so they don&#8217;t fully understand how to use it, and they will only get this understanding when they &#8220;get it to market&#8221;.  So, for example, a simple UI that isn&#8217;t as productive to use as the &#8220;perfect UI&#8221; is a good debt. It allows us to get our BPM initiative &#8220;to market&#8221; faster and start understanding it and adjusting our strategy. We just have to realize that like all debt, we need to pay it off at some point and improve the UI.</p>
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		<title>By: Steve</title>
		<link>http://www.bp-3.com/blogs/2009/12/should-we-incorporate-process-debt-as-a-concept-in-bpm/comment-page-1/#comment-4652</link>
		<dc:creator>Steve</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 09 Dec 2009 20:44:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I like the idea of process debt to describe some of the hidden cost of the decisions we make as we proceed with a BPM implementation or initiative.   I think it can also be a mechanism for explaining how to use the debt effectively and to remember that it has to be paid back.

In business we often borrow money to get a product to market faster. The speed buys us market share and an understanding of the market, from which we iterate our design and revisit our strategy.  So the debt is worth it and we have to have some faith that the product will make enough money to pay back the debt.

For many companies, BPM is a new thing, so they don&#039;t fully understand how to use it, and they will only get this understanding when they &quot;get it to market&quot;.  So, for example, a simple UI that isn&#039;t as productive to use as the &quot;perfect UI&quot; is a good debt. It allows us to get our BPM initiative &quot;to market&quot; faster and start understanding it and adjusting our strategy. We just have to realize that like all debt, we need to pay it off at some point and improve the UI.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I like the idea of process debt to describe some of the hidden cost of the decisions we make as we proceed with a BPM implementation or initiative.   I think it can also be a mechanism for explaining how to use the debt effectively and to remember that it has to be paid back.</p>
<p>In business we often borrow money to get a product to market faster. The speed buys us market share and an understanding of the market, from which we iterate our design and revisit our strategy.  So the debt is worth it and we have to have some faith that the product will make enough money to pay back the debt.</p>
<p>For many companies, BPM is a new thing, so they don&#8217;t fully understand how to use it, and they will only get this understanding when they &#8220;get it to market&#8221;.  So, for example, a simple UI that isn&#8217;t as productive to use as the &#8220;perfect UI&#8221; is a good debt. It allows us to get our BPM initiative &#8220;to market&#8221; faster and start understanding it and adjusting our strategy. We just have to realize that like all debt, we need to pay it off at some point and improve the UI.</p>
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		<title>By: Jaisundar</title>
		<link>http://www.bp-3.com/blogs/2009/12/should-we-incorporate-process-debt-as-a-concept-in-bpm/comment-page-1/#comment-1030</link>
		<dc:creator>Jaisundar</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 08 Dec 2009 20:32:46 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>This is a great topic because it seems most of our focus in discussions around value of BPM tend to centre around the value it can help unlock in &#039;the first run&#039; if you will, whereas the stage for more significant benefits are only just being set in the first run. 

A process that is experiencing BPMization, if you will, for the first time will see benefits of one kind, but then, approached the right way, it really would also introduce a paradigm shift in the way &#039;process management&#039; itself has been traditionally viewed and conducted in an organization. And that brings in several lateral possibilities for improvement in the subsequent runs. It may even be unrelated to some of those factors that influenced the first run.

From what I understand about Process Debt, first off, it does not have to be a bad thing - Scott, correct me if I am wrong here when I say that. But what is important may be to acknowledge it might/will exist and have a plan around addressing it.

I think two important factors can help in addressing it - a carefully handpicked team of BPCC and a roadmap for each process that comes under the purview of a BPM initiative. The road map will be about business drivers, expected market drivers and related changes, not necessarily centered around the BPM inititiative itself.

Periodic assessments of BAM data and related metrics in the context of the roadmap will be crucial to ensure continuous improvement and continuously &#039;settling&#039; the process debt. THAT plan is what, in my opinion, will help exploiting money spent on BPM projects.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>This is a great topic because it seems most of our focus in discussions around value of BPM tend to centre around the value it can help unlock in &#8216;the first run&#8217; if you will, whereas the stage for more significant benefits are only just being set in the first run. </p>
<p>A process that is experiencing BPMization, if you will, for the first time will see benefits of one kind, but then, approached the right way, it really would also introduce a paradigm shift in the way &#8216;process management&#8217; itself has been traditionally viewed and conducted in an organization. And that brings in several lateral possibilities for improvement in the subsequent runs. It may even be unrelated to some of those factors that influenced the first run.</p>
<p>From what I understand about Process Debt, first off, it does not have to be a bad thing &#8211; Scott, correct me if I am wrong here when I say that. But what is important may be to acknowledge it might/will exist and have a plan around addressing it.</p>
<p>I think two important factors can help in addressing it &#8211; a carefully handpicked team of BPCC and a roadmap for each process that comes under the purview of a BPM initiative. The road map will be about business drivers, expected market drivers and related changes, not necessarily centered around the BPM inititiative itself.</p>
<p>Periodic assessments of BAM data and related metrics in the context of the roadmap will be crucial to ensure continuous improvement and continuously &#8216;settling&#8217; the process debt. THAT plan is what, in my opinion, will help exploiting money spent on BPM projects.</p>
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		<title>By: Jaisundar</title>
		<link>http://www.bp-3.com/blogs/2009/12/should-we-incorporate-process-debt-as-a-concept-in-bpm/comment-page-1/#comment-4651</link>
		<dc:creator>Jaisundar</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 08 Dec 2009 20:32:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>This is a great topic because it seems most of our focus in discussions around value of BPM tend to centre around the value it can help unlock in &#039;the first run&#039; if you will, whereas the stage for more significant benefits are only just being set in the first run. 

A process that is experiencing BPMization, if you will, for the first time will see benefits of one kind, but then, approached the right way, it really would also introduce a paradigm shift in the way &#039;process management&#039; itself has been traditionally viewed and conducted in an organization. And that brings in several lateral possibilities for improvement in the subsequent runs. It may even be unrelated to some of those factors that influenced the first run.

From what I understand about Process Debt, first off, it does not have to be a bad thing - Scott, correct me if I am wrong here when I say that. But what is important may be to acknowledge it might/will exist and have a plan around addressing it.

I think two important factors can help in addressing it - a carefully handpicked team of BPCC and a roadmap for each process that comes under the purview of a BPM initiative. The road map will be about business drivers, expected market drivers and related changes, not necessarily centered around the BPM inititiative itself.

Periodic assessments of BAM data and related metrics in the context of the roadmap will be crucial to ensure continuous improvement and continuously &#039;settling&#039; the process debt. THAT plan is what, in my opinion, will help exploiting money spent on BPM projects.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>This is a great topic because it seems most of our focus in discussions around value of BPM tend to centre around the value it can help unlock in &#8216;the first run&#8217; if you will, whereas the stage for more significant benefits are only just being set in the first run. </p>
<p>A process that is experiencing BPMization, if you will, for the first time will see benefits of one kind, but then, approached the right way, it really would also introduce a paradigm shift in the way &#8216;process management&#8217; itself has been traditionally viewed and conducted in an organization. And that brings in several lateral possibilities for improvement in the subsequent runs. It may even be unrelated to some of those factors that influenced the first run.</p>
<p>From what I understand about Process Debt, first off, it does not have to be a bad thing &#8211; Scott, correct me if I am wrong here when I say that. But what is important may be to acknowledge it might/will exist and have a plan around addressing it.</p>
<p>I think two important factors can help in addressing it &#8211; a carefully handpicked team of BPCC and a roadmap for each process that comes under the purview of a BPM initiative. The road map will be about business drivers, expected market drivers and related changes, not necessarily centered around the BPM inititiative itself.</p>
<p>Periodic assessments of BAM data and related metrics in the context of the roadmap will be crucial to ensure continuous improvement and continuously &#8216;settling&#8217; the process debt. THAT plan is what, in my opinion, will help exploiting money spent on BPM projects.</p>
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		<title>By: Scott Francis</title>
		<link>http://www.bp-3.com/blogs/2009/12/should-we-incorporate-process-debt-as-a-concept-in-bpm/comment-page-1/#comment-1029</link>
		<dc:creator>Scott Francis</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 08 Dec 2009 17:26:29 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Lance, good point - although I think process debt introduces a new element to the process shift notion.  If you take my meaning - process shift will happen even if EVERYTHING else around you is static - normal tendency toward entropy in a sense ;)  Whereas process debt I think captures the idea that over time your actual notion of &quot;good process&quot; changes to reflect new market realities and business realities - and if you aren&#039;t investing in your process, you&#039;re actually incurring future cost (debt) of implementation to catch up.  Process shift would be one kind of debt, I would argue, while &quot;changing requirements&quot; are another kind of process debt... 

Sounds like I need to write a followup and try to characterize process debt types more succinctly, as some of the types of debt clearly reduce to concepts like &quot;technical debt&quot; or &quot;process shift&quot; while some perhaps do not. 

I&#039;m interested in more feedback out there - no login required, let&#039;s hear it!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Lance, good point &#8211; although I think process debt introduces a new element to the process shift notion.  If you take my meaning &#8211; process shift will happen even if EVERYTHING else around you is static &#8211; normal tendency toward entropy in a sense ;)  Whereas process debt I think captures the idea that over time your actual notion of &#8220;good process&#8221; changes to reflect new market realities and business realities &#8211; and if you aren&#8217;t investing in your process, you&#8217;re actually incurring future cost (debt) of implementation to catch up.  Process shift would be one kind of debt, I would argue, while &#8220;changing requirements&#8221; are another kind of process debt&#8230; </p>
<p>Sounds like I need to write a followup and try to characterize process debt types more succinctly, as some of the types of debt clearly reduce to concepts like &#8220;technical debt&#8221; or &#8220;process shift&#8221; while some perhaps do not. </p>
<p>I&#8217;m interested in more feedback out there &#8211; no login required, let&#8217;s hear it!</p>
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		<title>By: Scott Francis</title>
		<link>http://www.bp-3.com/blogs/2009/12/should-we-incorporate-process-debt-as-a-concept-in-bpm/comment-page-1/#comment-4650</link>
		<dc:creator>Scott Francis</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 08 Dec 2009 17:26:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Lance, good point - although I think process debt introduces a new element to the process shift notion.  If you take my meaning - process shift will happen even if EVERYTHING else around you is static - normal tendency toward entropy in a sense ;)  Whereas process debt I think captures the idea that over time your actual notion of &quot;good process&quot; changes to reflect new market realities and business realities - and if you aren&#039;t investing in your process, you&#039;re actually incurring future cost (debt) of implementation to catch up.  Process shift would be one kind of debt, I would argue, while &quot;changing requirements&quot; are another kind of process debt... 

Sounds like I need to write a followup and try to characterize process debt types more succinctly, as some of the types of debt clearly reduce to concepts like &quot;technical debt&quot; or &quot;process shift&quot; while some perhaps do not. 

I&#039;m interested in more feedback out there - no login required, let&#039;s hear it!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Lance, good point &#8211; although I think process debt introduces a new element to the process shift notion.  If you take my meaning &#8211; process shift will happen even if EVERYTHING else around you is static &#8211; normal tendency toward entropy in a sense ;)  Whereas process debt I think captures the idea that over time your actual notion of &#8220;good process&#8221; changes to reflect new market realities and business realities &#8211; and if you aren&#8217;t investing in your process, you&#8217;re actually incurring future cost (debt) of implementation to catch up.  Process shift would be one kind of debt, I would argue, while &#8220;changing requirements&#8221; are another kind of process debt&#8230; </p>
<p>Sounds like I need to write a followup and try to characterize process debt types more succinctly, as some of the types of debt clearly reduce to concepts like &#8220;technical debt&#8221; or &#8220;process shift&#8221; while some perhaps do not. </p>
<p>I&#8217;m interested in more feedback out there &#8211; no login required, let&#8217;s hear it!</p>
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