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	<title>Comments on: Set the Date: A #BPM Unconference #bpmCamp</title>
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		<title>By: uberVU - social comments</title>
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		<pubDate>Thu, 12 Nov 2009 00:43:21 +0000</pubDate>
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This post was mentioned on Twitter by bp3bpm: Blog Post: Set the Date: A #BPM Unconference #bpmCamp http://bit.ly/sYGpg...</description>
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<p>This post was mentioned on Twitter by bp3bpm: Blog Post: Set the Date: A #BPM Unconference #bpmCamp <a href="http://bit.ly/sYGpg.." rel="nofollow" onclick="pageTracker._trackPageview('/outgoing/bit.ly/sYGpg..?referer=');">http://bit.ly/sYGpg..</a>.</p>
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		<title>By: Process for the Enterprise &#187; Blog Archive &#187; More bpmCamp Details!</title>
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		<dc:creator>Process for the Enterprise &#187; Blog Archive &#187; More bpmCamp Details!</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 11 Nov 2009 13:07:15 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] Set the Date: A #BPM Unconference #bpmCamp  [...]</description>
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		<title>By: Tweets that mention Process for the Enterprise » Blog Archive » Set the Date: A #BPM Unconference #bpmCamp -- Topsy.com</title>
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		<dc:creator>Tweets that mention Process for the Enterprise » Blog Archive » Set the Date: A #BPM Unconference #bpmCamp -- Topsy.com</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 11 Nov 2009 01:52:56 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] This post was mentioned on Twitter by RedVelvetEvents and Scott Francis, Jaisundar_. Jaisundar_ said: A much needed bpm event theme! RT @bp3bpm: Blog Post: Set the Date: A #BPM Unconference #bpmCamp http://bit.ly/sYGpg [...]</description>
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		<title>By: Scott Francis</title>
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		<dc:creator>Scott Francis</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 10 Nov 2009 20:11:50 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Sandy- 

agreed, the mix is tricky. but we&#039;re *borrowing* from unconference and barcamp techniques, we are not claiming to be purists by any means.  we just want to have a good event and address topics the people coming care about.  I&#039;m just a pragmatist so I&#039;ll borrow from what ever seems to work best... 

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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Sandy- </p>
<p>agreed, the mix is tricky. but we&#8217;re *borrowing* from unconference and barcamp techniques, we are not claiming to be purists by any means.  we just want to have a good event and address topics the people coming care about.  I&#8217;m just a pragmatist so I&#8217;ll borrow from what ever seems to work best&#8230; </p>
<p>scott</p>
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		<title>By: Sandy</title>
		<link>http://www.bp-3.com/blogs/2009/11/bpmcamp2010/comment-page-1/#comment-869</link>
		<dc:creator>Sandy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 10 Nov 2009 19:53:32 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>My original post was at http://www.column2.com/2006/01/we-need-a-bpm-camp/, and I also hold the www.bpmcamp.com domain.

You need to be careful about the mix of prepared content and self-organizing content -- you can&#039;t really call it an unconference if there is a significant portion of the former.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>My original post was at <a href="http://www.column2.com/2006/01/we-need-a-bpm-camp/" rel="nofollow" onclick="pageTracker._trackPageview('/outgoing/www.column2.com/2006/01/we-need-a-bpm-camp/?referer=');">http://www.column2.com/2006/01/we-need-a-bpm-camp/</a>, and I also hold the <a href="http://www.bpmcamp.com" rel="nofollow" onclick="pageTracker._trackPageview('/outgoing/www.bpmcamp.com?referer=');">http://www.bpmcamp.com</a> domain.</p>
<p>You need to be careful about the mix of prepared content and self-organizing content &#8212; you can&#8217;t really call it an unconference if there is a significant portion of the former.</p>
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		<title>By: Scott Francis</title>
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		<dc:creator>Scott Francis</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 10 Nov 2009 18:22:46 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Sandy, sorry the links didn&#039;t come through but I can add them if you send me the URLs you wanted. 

I reserved a bpmCamp url as well -but different suffix :) didn&#039;t realize you were the holder of bpmCamp.org ;)  

Definitely interested in your recommendations on the Open Space front- I can&#039;t guarantee we&#039;ll go that route but at this point I&#039;m open to all suggestions (after all, how would it be any kind of unconference if we didn&#039;t do that?!).  I think that because prepared content will be valuable, we&#039;ll do some of the organizing/brainstorming of topics in advance - but we&#039;ll leave plenty of open time as well.  We&#039;ll try to strike a balance - as you say, we&#039;re going to be experimenting a bit. 

Regarding single vendor - I can imagine doing a good multi-vendor conference, but I wanted to start with something where there would be little to no boundaries about what could be discussed and everyone would still be on common ground.  You can&#039;t talk about specific APIs cross-vendor very easily, or specific scaling concerns, or specific UI tricks or features.  So, we&#039;ll give it a try and then take a step back and see how much of it was actually vendor-specific vs. vendor-neutral and that should give us some really good information going forward about what the balance is, and we&#039;ll poll attendees about it as well.  

We&#039;re excited. I think this is going to be a really fun event and concept to get kickstarted in our business.  After reading steve blank&#039;s &quot;motion vs. action&quot; post, it really reinforced that if we want something to change, we&#039;re going to have to act.  

Finally, I just want to thank you for your advice and support, Sandy.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Sandy, sorry the links didn&#8217;t come through but I can add them if you send me the URLs you wanted. </p>
<p>I reserved a bpmCamp url as well -but different suffix :) didn&#8217;t realize you were the holder of bpmCamp.org ;)  </p>
<p>Definitely interested in your recommendations on the Open Space front- I can&#8217;t guarantee we&#8217;ll go that route but at this point I&#8217;m open to all suggestions (after all, how would it be any kind of unconference if we didn&#8217;t do that?!).  I think that because prepared content will be valuable, we&#8217;ll do some of the organizing/brainstorming of topics in advance &#8211; but we&#8217;ll leave plenty of open time as well.  We&#8217;ll try to strike a balance &#8211; as you say, we&#8217;re going to be experimenting a bit. </p>
<p>Regarding single vendor &#8211; I can imagine doing a good multi-vendor conference, but I wanted to start with something where there would be little to no boundaries about what could be discussed and everyone would still be on common ground.  You can&#8217;t talk about specific APIs cross-vendor very easily, or specific scaling concerns, or specific UI tricks or features.  So, we&#8217;ll give it a try and then take a step back and see how much of it was actually vendor-specific vs. vendor-neutral and that should give us some really good information going forward about what the balance is, and we&#8217;ll poll attendees about it as well.  </p>
<p>We&#8217;re excited. I think this is going to be a really fun event and concept to get kickstarted in our business.  After reading steve blank&#8217;s &#8220;motion vs. action&#8221; post, it really reinforced that if we want something to change, we&#8217;re going to have to act.  </p>
<p>Finally, I just want to thank you for your advice and support, Sandy.</p>
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		<title>By: Launching #BPMcamp</title>
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		<dc:creator>Launching #BPMcamp</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 10 Nov 2009 17:47:48 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] I wrote a post about how we needed a BPM unconference. Today, Scott Francis of BP3 announced that they’re organizing one, although it’s focused on Lombardi customers and products. As I said on my comment on his post: I [...]</description>
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		<title>By: Column 2 : Launching #BPMcamp</title>
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		<dc:creator>Column 2 : Launching #BPMcamp</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 10 Nov 2009 17:38:50 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] I wrote a post about how we needed a BPM unconference. Today, Scott Francis of BP3 announced that they’re organizing one, although it’s focused on Lombardi customers and products. As I said on my comment on his post: I [...]</description>
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		<title>By: Sandy</title>
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		<dc:creator>Sandy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 10 Nov 2009 17:04:07 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>By the way, I also highly recommend that you bring in an experienced Open Space Technology facilitator to guide the unconference. I can make a couple of recommendations for people who I&#039;ve seen do this in the past, and it makes the difference between a true participatory unconference and an unorganized day of chaos.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>By the way, I also highly recommend that you bring in an experienced Open Space Technology facilitator to guide the unconference. I can make a couple of recommendations for people who I&#8217;ve seen do this in the past, and it makes the difference between a true participatory unconference and an unorganized day of chaos.</p>
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		<title>By: Sandy</title>
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		<dc:creator>Sandy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 10 Nov 2009 17:02:39 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Scott, I&#039;m glad that this is finally happening: I first &lt;a&gt;blogged about the need for a BPM camp&lt;/a&gt; almost 4 years ago, and even &lt;a&gt;host the domain&lt;/a&gt; as a placeholder.

I believe that there is a place for a vendor-independent BPM camp, but using a single vendor&#039;s clients to kick things off is a promising start to test the format. The biggest challenges, I believe, will be encouraging people who are accustomed to being spoon-fed at typical conferences to create and facilitate their own sessions, as well as get the corporate approval necessary for attending an unconference.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Scott, I&#8217;m glad that this is finally happening: I first <a>blogged about the need for a BPM camp</a> almost 4 years ago, and even <a>host the domain</a> as a placeholder.</p>
<p>I believe that there is a place for a vendor-independent BPM camp, but using a single vendor&#8217;s clients to kick things off is a promising start to test the format. The biggest challenges, I believe, will be encouraging people who are accustomed to being spoon-fed at typical conferences to create and facilitate their own sessions, as well as get the corporate approval necessary for attending an unconference.</p>
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